More on the latest Armadale uncovering: a sign painting company, a sports depot, Donald Bradman and a heritage soap sign

Thank to the excellent online sleuthing of a few good folk, a few more details have emerged of the Armadale uncoverings  I posted about yesterday.

Firstly, the butter menthol sign underneath the Persil sign has the signature of Edgar Hook signs:

It's an old sign, certainly pre-1950s, given that it was already covered by a building in this Stonnington Council photo I posted yesterday:

Today, signwriter extraordinaire Tony Mead did some looking up of Edgar Hook Signs. Funnily enough, the company turns up on my Lewis & Skinner site as a job...maybe a sub-contract?

http://www.lewisandskinner.com/items/show/1213

Both companies were in South Melbourne in 1955 (the date of the job above), so they are likely to have had some interaction. And both had been around for a while as established companies.

Tony also found a PDF from Heritage Victoria describing the heritage protection given to a large and well-kept Velvet Soap sign in Kyneton, regional Victoria, painted by... Edgar Hook:

http://vhd.heritage.vic.gov.au/reports/report_place_local/14447

This find is also notable to me because it's the first time I've heard of a local ghost sign being given any kind of heritage protection. It might even offer possibilities for the protection of other signs, thereby possibly avoiding the kind of fate of so many great signs, including my favourite Bushell's Tea sign recently.

The next lot of interesting detail has emerged in regard to the Pennants signs below the Allens and Persil signs, which features a painting of a cricketer (click to expand):

Thanks to a Facebook callout yesterday, Kristy (who's an expert online sleuth) has been on the hunt for more details. Turns out Pennants made bats, balls, gloves and other cricket stuff.

The 'Palmer's' refers to Palmer's Sports Depot in Malvern (also called Central Sports Depot), further west on High Street in Malvern (it's likely that this wall was an ad for that business). Palmer seemed to have knack for marketing - he's mentioned a lot in the newspapers, from 1921 onwards, in articles, sponsorships and ads:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1766783

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66452261

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66452113 

Interestingly, the legendary cricketer Donald Bradman had a sponsorship deal with Palmer's Sports Depot in 1932:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46675390


So - and given that the Pennant/Palmer's signs are definitely pre-1940s since the photo above is from the 1940s, and those bits of the wall were definitely covered - it's quite possible that the faded painting of the cricketer on the Armadale wall is of the Don himself.

Today's visit to the Armadale uncovering

This afternoon I managed to get to Armadale to take a look at the latest uncovering of signs on two walls, following a demolition. Funnily enough it's only a block from the recent uncovering of a large Cadbury sign on the same side of the road (that sign is now entirely covered by a concrete wall, more's the pity).

I'd neglected to check how charged my camera phone was though - so I turned up with 17% charge left and, after climbing through the fence into the building site (as is my wont), I snapped like crazy until the phone karked it a few minutes later.

The signs were from before the 1950s it seems - this is backed up by the 1950s two-tone brick style of building that had been demolished:

The revealed signs are fabulous, with more exposed with the progression of the demolition works. One wall appeared to be a wall advertising a range of products to passing traffic, and the other side was an automotive centre specialising in tyres. The signs are layered. One side has a sign for butter menthol drops beneath a Persil washing powder ad (for Persil's history, see: http://www.henkel.com/henkel-headlines/2006-18539-100-years-of-persil-11029.htm). The drops sign has the signwriter's signature: Edgar Hook Signs.

Here's what the Persil sign once looked like, thanks to the Stonnington Council website (http://stonlib.stonnington.vic.gov.au/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/PIC/BIBENQ?IRN=6401817&FMT=PA. What's interesting here is that a) the signs below the Persil one are older than the photo (which looks like the 1940s), since they predated the construction of the bakery building, b) The Persil sign was painted quite sloppily on top of the butter menthol sign, which looks like it was for the Allens brand (look above the 'Persil'):

Underneath the Persil sign (see below) are older signs for Pennants next to the remains of a painting of a cricket player. Palmer's Pennants was something sports-y (bats? balls? muscle rub?) but as yet my Google searching has turned up nothing...any help much appreciated.

On the wall opposite are lots of layered sign for Dunlop and other tyres, as well as what looks like older signs for a Ford dealership. I'm including all the photos below. Who knows how much longer these signs will be around? John Hunter's website also has some more photos of the site: http://jalbum.net/browse/user/album/1482256.

Anyway, here are the pics:

 

Another incredible uncovering in Armadale - plus a belated one in Rosebud

Last night I received an email from Linda, who alerted me to a fantastic uncovering of ghost signs in Armadale, just near where the large Cadbury sign was revealed recently. (thanks Linda!)

They're on two walls, in between Kooyong and Glenferrie Roads, if anyone else wants to check them out. Below are Linda's photos - I plan to get there myself in the next few days:

I've also been alerted (thanks Mark!) to another uncovering in 2010 in Rosebud, when the skate centre was demolished. Apparently the signs (a Swallows biscuits sign and a Medallion foods one) are still there next to a new Shell service station,and are a source of admiration for the locals. I can't show the photo here - I don't have rights - but the link is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23651645@N03/5134631793/. I plan to get there soon too. Given that Swallow and Ariell, as well as Groves McWhitty (maker of Medallion foods) were Lewis & Skinner clients in the early 1950s when these signs were probably painted, it's highly likely this was a L&S sign.

A big collection of Melbourne ghost signs spotted in my travels

Here's a collection of Melbourne signs I've photographed over the last few months, and that I haven't had time to download off the phone and upload here. It's always a pleasure to stumble on new signs, even ones less spectacular than some of those posted recently.

Finding one can make a less-than-optimal day that much better (I know, tragic...):

CBD...wonder why I've never noticed this before

Richmond - brilliant palimpsest (and below)

Prahran (obviously)

North Fitzroy. In honour of this week's announcement that General Motors Holden will cease manufacturing in Australia after 60 years of producing Australia's 'own' car.

And now a group from around Glenferrie Road, Armadale and Malvern, mainly near Malvern station:

The front of the building is below on the left.

And here, notice how even some Victorian-era folks were grammatically challenged!

Once a milk bar, now a shi-shi gourmet deli opposite the Malvern tennis courts (darling). At least they kept the ice cream sign.

Once a Greek grocery, now a shi-shi eatery.

Now a few from around Hawksburn train station:

Old shop...can juuust make this out. The rest is covered by a big old red brick wall.

Now a few more....

North Fitzroy. Had to use the bad iPhone zoom. I'm pretty sure the one on the brick wall was a Robur Tea sign (you can see the 'tea')

North Melbourne

North Fitzroy

North Fitzroy (and following)...one of my favourite palimpsests.

Fitzroy

Ditto

Kensington

Kensington

Footscray...in honour of the former Forgers department store

Footscray

Ditto

Fawkner

CBD...a famous sign. I knew of the sign but stumbled on it completely by accident.

CBD

CBD

CBD - on display by RMIT

CBD - not a ghost sign but good nonetheless

Brunswick

Brunswick (and below)

Ivanhoe

Ivanhoe (and below)

Ivanhoe

Brunswick

Preston

Footscray...Little Saigon market is still in operation but the 60s sign is cool

Abbotsford

Abbotsford

Now where was that?

Armadale...a new sign on top of an old one that looks like an old one?